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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about History, Philosophy - Andrew N. Carpenter responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ What are the most notable and the best books with the subject : "history of philosophy", that can be used as a reliable reference?
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Response from: Andrew N. Carpenter<br />

<blockquote><p>One more thought: if you are interested in twentieth century analytic philosophy, Scott Soames' two-volume history provides clear and reasonably reliable interpretations of the history of some of the movements within that tradition. </p><p>Even though Soames does not provide a full or completely satisfactory history of analytic philosophy--his central narrative focuses narrowly on those treatments of the analytic/synthetic, necessary/contingent, and apriori/aposteriori distinctions that are most closely connected to Saul Kripke's celebrated work in<em> Naming and Necessity</em>, and the emphasis he places on the historical significance of Kripke's achievements creates some some significant gaps and oversimplifications--these texts are extremely engaging and reading them can be a good way to gain sophisticated introductory knowledge about some vital figures in recent philosophical history:</p><p> </p><p>Soames, Scott, <em>Philosophical Analysis in the Twentieth Century, Volume 1: The Dawn of Analysis</em>. (Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press, 2003) <a target="_blank" href="http://books.google.com/books?id=sS_lToqtGrIC&pgis=1">http://books.google.com/books?id=sS_lToqtGrIC&pgis=1</a>.</p><hanging-indent><p>Soames, Scott, <em>Philosophical Analysis in the Twentieth Century, Volume 2: The Age of Meaning</em>. (Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press, 2005) <a target="_blank" href="http://books.google.com/books?id=M5umcZlECGQC&pgis=1">http://books.google.com/books?id=M5umcZlECGQC&pgis=1</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Of the three histories listed so far, my assessment is that Russell's is the least reliable (but most fun to read), Kenny's is the most reliable and employs the best historiography (and so is the best elementary introduction to many Western philosophical traditions), and Soames offers the most sophisticated discussion of a much more limited range of figures and themes.  <br /></p><p> </p></hanging-indent></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:09:30 EST</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ What are the most notable and the best books with the subject : "history of philosophy", that can be used as a reliable reference?
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Response from: Andrew N. Carpenter<br />

<blockquote><p><font size="3" face="times new roman,times,serif">Russell's book is lively, but not that reliable. The best one-volume history of philosophy I've found is <strong>A Brief History of Western Philosophy </strong>by Anthony Kenny, which is accessible but sophisticated and concise yet comprehensive.</font></p><p><font size="3" face="times new roman,times,serif">Unlike Russell, Kenny develops develop a sophisticated historiography that draws helpfully from wider cultural and historical events and trends.  This gives his text a much more interestingly nuanced view than is normal in introductory histories of philosophy.</font></p><p><font size="3" face="times new roman,times,serif">The book is entertaining and deeply informative -- and I consider it the very best of its genre! Here's an Amazon link (note -- the text I have mind is the one published by Blackwell in 1998; Kenny has published other histories of philosophy since then that I don't like as much):</font></p><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Western-Philosophy/dp/0631201327"><font size="3" face="times new roman,times,serif">http://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Western-Philosophy/dp/0631201327</font></a></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p> </p></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:09:30 EST</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about History, Philosophy - Mark Collier responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ What are the most notable and the best books with the subject : "history of philosophy", that can be used as a reliable reference?
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Response from: Mark Collier<br />

<blockquote>Bertrand Russell's <em>History of Western Philosophy</em> immediately comes to mind.  </blockquote> ]]></description>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about History, Philosophy - Peter Smith responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ How useful do you feel an understanding of philosophy is to the study of history? I am a history graduate on my way to completing a MA and PhD in this field. More and more my studies have got me contemplating philosophical issues, particularly morality. Sometimes it is difficult to not be overwhelmed with the horrors that history holds, to wonder how people can possibly act in such fundamentaly immoral ways towards each other. I find myself struggling with the debate long-standing in history as to whether as a historian it is inherent in my role to morally condemn certain actions in history or whether I should accept that I can never understand the position these people were in, therefore have no right to judge their consequent actions. While I'm still struggling to decide on this (perhaps somebody could help me?), I have slowly begun to think that an understanding of philosophy is as crucial to being a good historian as the other traditional techniques. I was wondering how many philosophers would agree with this view?
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Response from: Peter Smith<br />

<blockquote>There is a number of different issues here. Let me comment on just one of them. We may indeed wonder how people, in certain situations, can come to act in appalling ways. The question as asked perhaps suggests that arm-chair philosophy might help in understanding this. But not so. This "how come?"  question is an empirical one. What is needed is e.g. a knowledge of empirical work in social psychology, such as the <a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment">Milgram experiment</a>, which explored the willingness of subjects to inflict (apparent) suffering at the behest of an authoritative figure. The results of such work are highly alarming but also, I take it, highly salient for the historian. For they suggest something of the ready possibility of authority structures that might facilitate widespread evil behaviour. We can oh-so-easily be led to do terrible things.<br /></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 18:30:41 EST</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about History, Philosophers - Mitch Green responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ What kind of questions did philosophers ask in Ancient Greece?
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Response from: Mitch Green<br />

<blockquote><p>Thank you for your question.  I can't hope to answer it at all comprehensively.  Instead I'll try to give a smattering of highlights, and some pointers as to where you might look to learn more.  Among the questions that philosophers tried to answer at this time were: '</p><p>What is it to be virtuous, and can virtue be taught? </p><p>What is the soul, and does it survive the destruction of the body? </p><p> What is the best organization for a society to follow in order to be just?</p><p> What, at the most fundamental level, is the physical world made of?  (Proffered answers included fire, water, and atoms.) </p><p> In what sense, if any, might the future be "real"? </p><p>There are lots of others.  For a rewarding discussion that puts philosophical inquiry into a broader social and historical context, I would strongly suggest the classic _The Greeks_ by H.D. Kitto.   Once you've gone through that, you can't go wrong by looking at some dialogues by Plato, in which the author purports to report various discussions his teacher Socrates had with his friends before being put to death by his fellow Athenians.  See for instance Plato's _Five Dialogues_, translated by J. Cooper, and published by Hackett Publishing Co. <br /></p><p><br /><br /><br /> </p></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:14:26 EST</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about History, Truth - Peter S. Fosl responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ I have often wondered how proponents of the doctrine of "historical relativity" manage to avoid an inherent contradiction.<br><br>For example, if one asserts "all truths are relative" (to an historical epoch or weltenschaung, e.g.), must one not also apply that observation to the "truth" that "all truths are relative?"  Which means, of course, that the relativist's position is untenable, because it is itself merely relative and, hence, untrue in a trans-historical sense, at least based upon the relatavist's own assertion.  <br><br>If the only truth that is NOT relative is the relativist's supposed insight, one must ask on what grounds it is exempted.  I suppose it might relate to the fact that the relativist stands at the end of Hegelian history, but still, it smacks of inconsistency.<br><br>Thank you for your time.<br><br>Sincerely,<br>Charles M.<br>Lansing, MI
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Response from: Peter S. Fosl<br />

<blockquote>I think you raise one of the strongest objections possible to relativism, one so strong that it renders relativism impossible to formulate in that way (i.e., "All truths are relative").  But I do warn you that things get stickier as your get into relativistic theories.  What makes them compelling?  Here are a couple of general strategies that I've run across.<br /><br />1.  <em>Negative Proof</em>: Negatively, non-relativistic theories of truth seem, at least in the view of many, to have irresolveable problems of their own, arguably greater problems.  So, if non-relativistic theories can't be right, some kind of relativism must be correct.<br /><br />2.  <em>Positive Proof</em>: Positively but indirectly, relativism seems (1) to answer serveral questions about the way the meaning of language and the designation "true" is determined and correlatively (2) it seems to be the consequence of investigations into matters concerning topics like whether a body of evidence can determine only one conclusion (answer: no), whether a word can have a single, clear, univocal meaning (nope), whether hypotheses are testable individually (no again), and whether any unique sentence or set of sentences can represent independent reality (no way).  Then, of course, there seems to be the facts of sociology and history that exhibit countless and forever changing truth-claims.<br /><br />3.  <em>Shown, Not Said</em>.  Some who are influenced by Wittgenstein, might argue that something like relativism can be "shown" by certain manipulations of language usages and certain investigations into the way language works, but it can't be proven.  So, if you don't see the relativism, look again, look harder.<br /><br />4.  <em>Biting the Bullet</em>.  Some might just embrace the idea that relativism is relative, too.  Of course, that would seem to make it impossible for the relativist to criticize absolutists or to assert that absolutism is wrong (after all the absolutists might just say that, "well, absolutism is true <em>for me</em> or <em>for my society</em>, and that's supposed to be enough for you").  But watch it here.  The relativist might then try to bring the absolutist to change her or his mind and accept relativism--but <span class="caps"><span class="caps">NOT </span></span>by maintaining that relativism is "true" (where there can only be one truth or perhaps where truth is thought somehow to depict "the way things are") but  by maintaing that relativism seems to be morally or politically preferable, that it seems more felicitous, the best explanation for our present social purposes, that it seems to work better, that it yields more pleasant consequences, that it produces more agreement, etc.<br /><br />So, while you're right that relativism of the form you describe hoists itself on its own petard (as Schick & Vaugh like to say) and therefore is self-defeating, don't assume that all relativists would formulate their positions in just that way--at least not without a fuss.</blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:38:25 EST</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about History - Andrew N. Carpenter responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Can there be such a thing as 'progress' in human history? Does time and circumsance have a more than superficial bearing on our beings? Or are we essentially the same regardless of historical epoch or geographical  conditioning? I refer to the so-called 'birth of reason' in 17th century Europe, and its so-said 'dawn of modernity'. 
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Response from: Andrew N. Carpenter<br />

<blockquote><p>I agree with Peter that one need to specify exact criteria for progressbefore making the sort of assessment that you describe. All suchcritiera and assessments will be controversial because our knowledge ofourselves and our histories is limited and controversial, but this byno way means that producing and rationally defending such assessmentsis worthless -- on the contrary, they can be extremely useful andinteresting.</p><p> Thepolitical theorist George Kateb provides an interesting--andfascinating--example of how to assess human progress in the modern age.In his recent collection of essays. <em>Patriotism and Other Mistakes</em>(Yale University Press, 2006), Kateb assesses human progresses on thebasis of a richly sophistcated conception of human and argues that theUnited States Constitution represents a significant achievement in thesupport of human dignity, which he defines (again, in a richlysophisticated and fascinating way) in terms of rights-basedindividualism. While Kateb's criteria for progress and assessments arecertainly "qualified" in some of the senses that Peter has described,they are also impressive scholarly achievementsthat provide meaningful insight and information.  </p><p> Kateb'sdiscussion about ways in which current domestic and foreign policiesand actions of the United States jeporadize this progress is alsoinstructive: human progress is contingent, both in the sense thatwhever progress has occurred need not have occurred and in the sensethat progress we have atained we can lose. So, although I am not at allskeptical about the possibility of crafting useful assessments of humanprogress, I am skeptical that there is a single, inevitable, univocalstory to be told about human progress: there are many possible storiesto be told, with many twists and reversals, and no easy lessons ormorals about human progress simpliciter. So, conceptions of humanprogress as inevitably following one secure path (as, for example, inthe political philosophies of Hegel and Marx and as in some religous texts) aren't plausible.</p></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 08:51:12 EST</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about History - Peter S. Fosl responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Can there be such a thing as 'progress' in human history? Does time and circumsance have a more than superficial bearing on our beings? Or are we essentially the same regardless of historical epoch or geographical  conditioning? I refer to the so-called 'birth of reason' in 17th century Europe, and its so-said 'dawn of modernity'. 
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Response from: Peter S. Fosl<br />

<blockquote>There can be no simple, unqualified, unequivocal "progress" in human history because what is to count as progress or regress must be determined as such by some measure, some set of criteria for progress.  But, so far as I can seen, anyway, there is no unqualified set of criteria to measure by.  One can, however, speak meaningfully about specific kinds of progress.  For example, one can speak of technological progress in processor speed, or progress in understanding black holes, or in eliminating poverty, or in curing lung cancer, or in reaching the end of a journey, or in gaining financial independence.  Mere "progress" itself, however, seems to have little meaning.  About whether or not we remain "essentially the same" across space and time, I think the answer depends upon what you mean by "essentially."  For myself, I think of people as plastic but not infinitely plastic. Just as one can make many different kinds of things with clay (even an infinite number of different things), one can't make anything. The physics of clay just won't permit everything.  Similarly, while many different kinds of human being are possible (even an infinite number of different people), not anything is possible for us.</blockquote> ]]></description>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about History - Alexander George responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ How legitimate can history be if every document that has ever been written has some bias behind its writing? To what extent can we trust historical books written in a time we otherwise would have no knowledge of? How certain can we be that the "history" we're taught actually happened? And finally how do historians classify something as historical, what qualifications does a document require to become historical?<br><br>Thanks for the help, Alex.
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Response from: Alexander George<br />

<blockquote>Why do you think inquiry into what happened in the past is anydifferent from inquiry about what's happening on the other side of theMoon? In both cases, we lack direct access to the facts. We must makeinferences, based on many assumptions, from what we do observe to whatactually was (or is) the case. Do you think history is differentbecause there's something different about the past? (We could inprinciple visit the other side of the Moon, but we simply cannot --barring time travel -- visit the past.) Or do you think history isdifferent because it focuses on the actions of people, and some kind ofdistortion always infects our reasoning about people that does not leadus astray in our inquiries into the natural world?  <br /></blockquote> ]]></description>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about History - Alexander George responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Presuming that it is impossible to write unbiased history, does that make the discipline invalid in that it can never be what it would ideally (at least for many) be: a completely truthful presentation of the past? 
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Response from: Alexander George<br />

<blockquote>I'm not sure what you're presuming until you say what "biased" means.  Do you believe that contemporary physics is biased?  If not, then what is it about historical research that makes it impossible for historians to attain the same degree of rigor and truth that physicists do?  And if so, then what would inquiry have to look like in order for it to be "unbiased"?</blockquote> ]]></description>
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