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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Logic - Stephen Maitzen responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ I seem to remember the "heap paradox" being a very old one (given a heap and repeatedly removing a single grain of sand, when does it stop being a heap?).  Yet I don't ever recall hearing a solution to it.  No doubt there are different views of things, but is there at least a generally accepted solution to this paradox?
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Response from: Stephen Maitzen<br />

<blockquote><p>You asked, "Is there at least a generally accepted solution to this paradox?"  Not by a long shot!  The paradox of the heap (and its cousins that use other vague concepts) is in my opinion one of the greatest unsolved intellectual problems.  It has generated a huge philosophical literature, and it's very much a topic of current philosophical debate, but I have yet to see a proposed solution that even comes close to being satisfactory. For starters, you might take a look at these entries from the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy:</p><p>SEP, "<a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/sorites-paradox/" target="_blank">Sorites Paradox</a>"<br />SEP, "<a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/vagueness/" target="_blank">Vagueness</a>"<br /></p><p>Best wishes as you work your way through this daunting -- but inescapable -- problem!  I think you'll find it repays your careful thought even if you don't end up much closer to a satisfying solution.<br /></p></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:16:52 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4499</link>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Emotion, Logic - Charles Taliaferro responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Is an emotional reaction to a fact/situation a logical conclusion that follows from observed premises?  Is it logical, for instance, to mourn the death of a loved one, or is mourning a phenomenon independent of logical analysis of a situation?
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Response from: Charles Taliaferro<br />

<blockquote>Great question that gets to the heart of a current debate!  If you have a very narrow concept of logic (in which logic only refers to the laws of identity, non-contradiction, and the law of excluded middle) and if your notion of observation is again narrow perhaps only allowing in empirical data then perhaps it is neither logical nor illogical to mourn the death of someone.  <span class="caps">BUT, </span>you may have a broader concept of observation.  For example, in your question you refer to "a loved one."  Can one observe the fact that a person is worthy of love or should be loved?  I personally think one can.  In that case, it would be quite logical (you would be acting with consistency) for you to act in a way that is appropriate when one's beloved one dies.  On this expanded front, imagine you truly love Skippy and desire her or his happiness; that is, you believe it would be good for Skippy to be happy and bad if Skippy were to die before fulfilling the desires of his or her heart.  Then, surely, it appears you should mourn Skippy's death. Matters may turn out otherwise, however, if you deeply restrict concepts like love, logic, and observation.  I suggest the more open approach is the better one in that it captures more fully the way in which our experience is saturated with values that call for our response.  You might check out Parfit's extraordinary two volume work On What Matters for a look at the issues and why there is some dispute today among philosophers on the fact/value distinction.</blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 16:18:50 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4478</link>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Logic - Andrew Pessin responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Recently I tried to explain to a friend what interested me about Hume's 'problem of induction.' I told him how if we want to give an argument for the superiority of inductive reasoning (concluding x's are always P, based on observed instances of x's that are P) over, say, anti-inductive reasoning (concluding x's are not always P, based on observed instances of x's that are P) then we would have to give either an inductive argument or else a deductive argument. We cannot give such a deductive argument, I told him, and to give an inductive argument like 'inductive reasoning has led to good results in every observed instance' would be circular.<br><br>He replied with the question 'why is there no problem of deduction?' He asked why he couldn't give a similar argument that any defense of deductive reasoning (concluding C based on premises that logically entail C) over, say, anti-deductive reasoning (concluding not C based on premises that logically entail C) needs to be either deductive or inductive. A deductive argument would be circular, and an inductive argument is inadequate because of Hume's problem.<br><br>I can't shake the feeling that something is wrong with his reply. Is there - or is there something wrong in both of our arguments? If not, then why is 'the problem of induction' so much more famous than 'the problem of deduction'?
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Response from: Andrew Pessin<br />

<blockquote>Rather than offer a response to this excellent question, let me just refer you to a paper whcih essentially raises and discusses the very same problem:  Susan Haack's "A Justification of Deduction," from the journal Mind in 1976 (try vol 85, n. 337 I believe). Also, Lewis Carroll (as in "Alice in Wonderland" has a similar, more fun version of it -- "What the Tortoise said to Achilles" -- also in Mind, in 1895 or so ... Check them out!<br />ap<br /></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:53:59 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4437</link>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Logic - Richard Heck responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Hello,<br><br>I would like to ask a kind of multiple angled question I have noticed a "lack of" while studying logic. Is "the process of elimination" a sound "Rule of Inference"? (Perhaps, we've all used this "process of elimination" in taking a multiple choice test.)<br>I have read two books on Logic: one by Irving M.Copi & Carl Cohen as well as The Logic Book by Merrie Bergmann, James Moor, Jack Nelson. I have not seen a single logic text nor a logic website where "the process of elimination" appears as a inference rule.  Why is this not included as a rule? Is it not considered Deductive? Does it go by another name? What is the deal?   Thank you for considering this question in advance.
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Response from: Richard Heck<br />

<blockquote><p>It goes by another name, sometimes "argument by cases" or "argument by dilemma" or "the disjunctive syllogism". The basic rule is: </p><p>A &#8744; B<br />~A<br />&#8756; B</p><p>Obviously, this can be extended to any number of disjuncts, e,g.:</p><p>A &#8744; B &#8744; C &#8744; D<br />~A &#8743; ~B &#8743; ~C<br />&#8756; D</p><p>So the disjuncts represent the possibilities you have before you, and the negations represent your ruling out all but one of them.</p><p>There are quantificational versions as well, e.g.:</p><p>&#8704;x(Fx &#8594; x = a &#8744; x = b &#8744; x = c)<br />~Fa &#8743; ~Fb<br />&#8756; Fc</p><p>This would normally be derived from one of the propositional versions.<br /></p></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:07:27 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4457</link>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Logic, Science - Andrew Pessin responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Let's say I have a machine with a button and a light bulb where the bulb lights up if and only if I press the button. I don't know anything about it's inner workings (gears, computers, God), I only know the "if and only if" connection between button and light. Can I say that by pressing the button I cause the bulb to light up? (I would say yes).<br><br>It seems to me that for the causal connection it doesn't matter that I don't know the exact inner workings, or that I don't desire the effect (maybe I press the button just because I enjoy pressing it, or because there is strong social pressure to press it, ...), and that I consider it very unfortunate that the bulb lights up wasting electric energy.<br><br>Let's now change the terms: instead of "pressing the button" we insert "having a kid" and instead of "the bulb lights up" we have "the kid dies" (maybe when adult). I think the "if and only if" relationship still holds, and so does the causal connection.<br><br>It would seem to me that parents are causally connected to the death of their kids (e.g. creating a person also causes the death of such a person), and that it doesn't matter that they don't want their kids to die, or that they don't understand exactly how a human being is created or dies, etc... it also doesn't matter if the kid will live till his 90s, or commit suicide as a teenager, or be poisoned. Those are the irrelevant "inner workings", the only certain thing is that he will surely die, one way or another.<br><br>Any particular holes in this line of reasoning?
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Response from: Andrew Pessin<br />

<blockquote><p>Great set of thoughts, here.  But maybe one quick mode of response is to remark that much depends on just what you take the word "cause" to mean.  You could take it to mean something like this:  "x causes y" = "y if and only if x", as you've suggested.  Then, granting that both cases above are cases fulfilling the "if and only if", sure, giving birth would count as a cause of the later death.  But now two things.  (1) Why should "cause" mean precisely that?  Wouldn't it be enough if the x reliably yielded the y, even if things other than x could yield the y too?  (i.e. couldn't you drop the 'only if' part, so 'x causes y' would mean 'if x, then, y', even if it might also be true (say) that 'if z, then y'?)  Going this route would preserve your intuition that both cases above are cases of causation, but focus on whether your particular definition is the best one.  (2) Perhaps more importantly, though, one might examine the 'pragmatics' of causation -- how people actually use the word, different from how very precise philosophers or scientists might define it.  So, for example, we often restrict the word 'cause' not just to every factor which may be necessary or sufficient or both for an effect, but to the most salient factors, the most explanatorily relevant ones, the most proximate ones, etc.  So, you strike a match and it lights; strictly speaking many things are at least necessary for that (the presence of oxygen, the existence of the match, the laws of physics, etc.) but we often say 'the striking caused the lighting', even though all those other factors were necessary.  Indeed the striking was neither necessary nor sufficient for the lighting -- the match could have been lit other ways, and striking on its own (without oxygen etc) wouldn't light.  So our ordinary use of 'cause' is far looser than some technical philosophical definition.  So the question for you is: how, ultimately, are you going to use the word 'cause', and are you justified in choosing that use in light of competing uses?</p><p> </p><p>hope that's useful ...</p><p> ap<br /></p></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 09:17:07 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4403</link>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Logic - Alexander George responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Consider the following:<br>"If we lower the standards we lower the results, so if we raise the standards we raise the results" (in passing this is about education). <br>I have the impression that there is a fallacy in this - even if I assume the first part of the inference, I suppose we could raise educational standards and just watch everybody fail miserably), but I cannot phrase clearly why/how this is a fallacious claim. <br>Am I right? Is this fallacious and if so, is there a technical term for it? 
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Response from: Alexander George<br />

<blockquote>Let's assume it's true that "If P, then Q".  The conditional claim that you imagine being inferred from this has the structure "If not-P, then not-Q".  [Not quite: I don't think the negation of "we lower standards" is "we raise standards".  One way in which we might fail to lower standards is to keep them fixed.]  This is indeed an incorrect inference.  The first conditional claims that P is a sufficient condition for Q.  While the second claims that P is a necessary condition for Q.  And the latter claim simply doesn't follow from the former.  For instance, it's true that if Rex is a dog, then Rex is a mammal.  (Being a dog is a sufficient condition for being a mammal.)  But this does not imply the false claim that if Rex is not a dog, then Rex is not a mammal.  (Being a dog is not a necessary condition for being a mammal.)  This fallacy is sometimes called <em>The Fallacy of Denying the Antecedent</em>.  ("P" is called the <em>antecedent</em> of the first conditional claim above.)<br /></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:55:25 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4383</link>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Justice, Logic - Eddy Nahmias responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Is this a valid argument? If not, what is the fallacy committed?<br><br>(1) A hypocritical agent is one that says one thing, but does another.<br>(2) The government kills people. (Through wars, the death penalty, etc.)<br>(3) The government tells us not to kill. (By making it a law to not murder. Murder is a form of killing, thus making it a law to not murder is a form of making it a law to not kill.)<br>__________________________________________________<br>Therefore, (4) The government is hypocritical.
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Response from: Eddy Nahmias<br />

<blockquote><p>I think your argument is logically valid--that is, IF the premises were true, then the conclusion would be true.  And I don't think it commits any formal or informal fallacies (except perhaps equivocation in the sense I'll explain shortly).</p><p>The problem is that it is <em>unsound</em>, because it has at least one false premise; hence the conclusion is not "made true" by the premises.  Premise 3 is false.  The government does not tell us not to kill <em>no matter what</em>.  As you point out, it tells us not to break specific laws against specific types of killing.  Typically, citizens are not breaking the law (and are morally justified) in killing in self-defense or to protect others from an immediate and deadly threat.  And (legal) killing in war  and use of the death penalty (where it is legal) are also not forms of killing the government tells us not to commit.</p><p>Now, we may have reasons to think that some or even all killing in war is morally problematic and even more reasons to think the death penalty is morally wrong.  And we have greatly narrowed the scope of such legalized killings over time (in the U.S. and even more so, in other industrialized nations, most of which, for instance, have made the death penalty illegal). And we may believe that it is hypocritical to say some killing is OK but not others (though almost no one, perhaps Jesus excluded, suggests that you cannot kill, if necessary, in self-defense).  But I don't think that the government is "saying one thing but doing another" in these cases, because the government, just like most of us, does <em>not </em>treat all killings as the same thing (hence the equivocation in the use of "killing").<br /></p></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:24:20 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4372</link>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Logic - Richard Heck responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Hi,<br><br>I'm having an argument with my pal.<br>He argues since logic prescribes (creates a standard) what is a good/bad inference (valid/invalid) it is normative.<br>On the other hand, I think Logic is like mathematics or physics - there are laws of logic, but they are not normative (they only describe).<br><br>Can you help us settle this beef?<br><br>Thank you, Miko
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Response from: Richard Heck<br />

<blockquote><p>I don't know that I can settle anything. The dispute you are having is one philosophers today have generally. Some people think logic is normative, in that it prescribes rules concerning how one should think, or reason; other people think logic is purely descriptive, and that it simply tells us something about the notion of implication or validity. </p><p>One reason people often given against the normative interpretation is that the norms logic provides just seem like bad ones. For example, it was once argued that, since logic tells us that A and ~A imply anything you like, then logic would be telling us that, if you reach a contradiction, you should infer that the moon is made of cheese; but, of course, what you should actually do is figure out what went wrong and give up one of the contradictory beliefs. The obvious reply, though, is that this is too simple a conception of what the norms logic prescribes are. It assumes, in particular, that if A implies B, then it is a norm that, if one thinks A, one should infer B. But maybe the norm is that, if one thinks A, then one ought either to infer B or to give up A. Logic won't tell you which one to do, but it demands you do one or the other.<br /></p><p align="left">A deeper concern is that reasoning itself might be more involved with probability than logic allows. In that case, the norms of reasoning would presumably come from probability theory, and classical two valued logic would have the wrong subject matter. (Let me insert a plug here for my colleague David Christensen's book <em>Putting Logic in Its Place</em> and suggest you read <a target="_blank" href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/epistemology-bayesian/">the entry on Bayesian epistemology</a> at the Stanford Encyclopedia.) On the other hand, however, there are known ways of essentially deriving probability theories from logical theories, so two-valued logic would represent a sort of idealization to the case of absolute certainty of the norms that govern reasoning, which actually proceeds, most always, under uncertainty.<br /></p></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 10:44:50 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4333</link>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Logic - Allen Stairs responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ I'm struggling wit the following: I am reading an essay that states (repeatedly) that the following <br>"p, p implies q, therefore q" is valid but that the following: "I judge that p, I judge that p implies q, therefore I judge that q" is "obviously" invalid. There is no explanation; apparently this is supposed to be transparent but I fail to see why this is obviously invalid. Why adding "I judge that" makes it invalid? 
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Response from: Allen Stairs<br />

<blockquote><p>One sure way to prove invalidity is to describe a possible case where the premises of an argument are true and the conclusion false. To make things a bit more plausible, let's change the example slightly. The following is valid:</p><p>"q, not-p implies not-q, therefore p"</p><p> I pick this example because this argument (closely related to <em>modus ponens</em>) is one that people have a little more trouble seeing, or so my experience teaching logic suggests. So there could be and likely are cases where a person <em>judges</em> that q, and <em>judges</em> that not-p implies not-q, but has trouble with the logical leap and therefore fails to <em>judge</em> that p. That's a counterexample to the argument you're interested in. We have someone who judges the premises of a valid argument to be true but doesn't judge the conclusion to be true.<br /></p><p>This isn't surprising. To <em>judge</em> something is (putting it a bit crudely) to be in a certain state of mind toward it. Being in the "judges that" state of mind toward the premises of an argument doesn't guarantee that someone will be in the same state of mind toward the conclusion, even if the conclusion happens to follow. Consider some argument with 10 premises P(1), P(2)...P(10) and a conclusion X. And suppose that X really does follow from P(1)... P(10). Your suggestion seems to tell us that anyone who judges the premises to be true will actually <em>judge</em> the conclusion to be true, even though, we'll suppose, the reasoning required to get from premises to conclusion is subtle and complex. </p><p>If you think about it, it's not at all unusual for people to miss seeing what their beliefs imply. Math is a particularly obvious case; getting someone to accept the principles of Euclidean geometry doesn't guarantee that they'll simply judge all the theorems to be true. But math is by no means the only case.</p><p>Another way to to put it: the problematic argument you judge to be valid needs another premise. A general version of the premise would be something like this:</p><blockquote><p>Whenever an argument is valid and I judge that its premises are true, I always judge that its conclusion is true as well.</p></blockquote><p>That's false for any human "I." <br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:37:55 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4352</link>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Logic, Religion - Andrew Pessin responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Is it logical to infer a higher power given how extraordinary human life is?
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Response from: Andrew Pessin<br />

<blockquote><p>If by 'logical' you mean 'a decent argument can be constructed of this form' then i would say the answer is yes -- but if you mean 'an absolutely convincing argument ...' then, well, you don't find too many of those anywhere in philosophy -- my favorite version of the kind of argument that Allen Stairs mentions is some version of the fine-tuning argument -- which observes how perfectly fine-tuned features of the universe seem to be, such that they could easily have been otherwise, and yet had they been otherwise then human life (conscious, rational, moral life) would not have been possible -- and goes from there to argue that it is reasonable to think this didn't occur by chance -- a good source on this topic would be any of Paul Davies' recent books ...</p><p>best, ap <br /></p></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:14:54 EST</pubDate>
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