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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Existence, Philosophers, Religion - Jonathan Westphal responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Hello Philosophers! <br><br>Can anyone defend the Ontological Argument against Kant's criticism that existence is not a predicate?
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Response from: Jonathan Westphal<br />

<blockquote>Some random suggestions: (1) David Pears pointed out that even if Kant's argument were wholly clear and wholly successful, which it is not, it could only show that existence is not an ordinary predicate, if it is a predicate. His view is that it is a predicate, just a very peculiar one; (2) There is also the view of the celebrated logician, mathematician and philosopher Bolzano, who writes in the <em>Theory of Science</em> ("Kinds of Propositions") that 'I take <em>being</em> [Sein] or actuality [<em>Wirklichkeit</em>] to be precisely what language makes it out to be, namely an attribute; whoever denies this confuses (I believe) actuality with substance. By substance I mean an actuality which is not an attribute of another actuality; hence I admit that we cannot truly predicate the putative <em>abstractum</em> of the substance (substantiality) of any object. For it is part of the concept of substance that there is no property of this kind. But it is not the same with actuality, which I consider to be a mere attribute,  not only of substance itself but of each of its attributes, since every attribute of an actual thing is itself actual. And since every attribute of an object can be ascribed to it in a judgment of the form '<em>A</em> has <em>b</em>', why not the attribute of actuality?' (3) There is a related argument deriving from Russell's Theory of Descriptions in my own <em>Philosophical Propositions</em>, despite the fact that Russell himself took the implication of the theory to be that the ontological argument is no good; (4) There is a defence of a stripped-down version of the ontological argument by the late Gary Matthews and Lynn Baker Rudder in <em>Analysis</em> for 2010.</blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:36:04 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4518</link>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Existence, Philosophers, Religion - Allen Stairs responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Hello Philosophers! <br><br>Can anyone defend the Ontological Argument against Kant's criticism that existence is not a predicate?
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Response from: Allen Stairs<br />

<blockquote><p>Sure. Even if existence is not a predicate, it's at least arguable that necessary existence is. (As Norman Malcolm pointed out years ago, there really are two versions of the argument, and the second one deals with necessary existence.)</p><p> We doubt that existence is a predicate because, roughly, saying that something exists tells us nothing about what it's like. Not so for necessary existence. Not just anything could exist necessarily. The computer I'm typing on is the wrong sort of thing to be a candidate for necessarily existing thing. Assuming that some things are of the right sort to exist necessarily, necessary existence would be a predicate.</p><p> Whether this is a defense of the argument all things considered is another matter. But I think the point made here is fair as far as it goes. A being that merely happened to exist wouldn't be a being than which none greater can be conceived.<br /></p></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:36:04 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4518</link>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Religion - Oliver Leaman responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Some people say that you don't have to have faith to be in touch with a supernatural reality, rather you can have an intuitive access to that reality. Isn't that really just faith since it's not based on reason? I mean what is "intuition" anyways? I'm sure there are a lot of different definitions but I could use some of that "analytic" style of philosophy clarity on this concept of intuition. (even if that's by definition impossible)
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Response from: Oliver Leaman<br />

<blockquote><p>I wonder if it is faith. There is an Islamic philosopher called Ibn al-Arabi who argued that for him there was no point in proving the existence of God since He is just so obviously all around us. Here he was thinking of one of the beautiful names for God, al-Muhit, the omnipresent. Suppose someone says that the presence of  God is so evident to him that it is like believing that today is Thursday, or that the hands I see banging away on the keys of my computer are my hands. As Wittgenstein says, these are not claims that really one needs evidence for.</p><p> Perhaps the same could be said for the knowledge that the world is infused with divinity?<br /></p></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:00:05 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4493</link>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Religion - Eddy Nahmias responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Hi I have a hairy one for you. Imagine if you will that you have a mystical experience and you encounter the Supreme, Ultimate Absolute i.e. God. And that you can ask this being any question you desire. But being a bit of a skeptic you ask it "what question should I ask you?" Would this constitute a good test or would I simply be acting cute and incur Gods wrath? <br><br>But in all seriousness if you did encounter a being claiming to be God, what would constitute proof?<br><br>I figure we would probably know anyway, because I can't envision God not installing some sort of Truth recognition factor, but then I've been influenced by a lot of New Age mumbo jumbo, so I want to know what a philosopher thinks.<br><br>Cheers Pasquale<br><br>
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Response from: Eddy Nahmias<br />

<blockquote><p>I like the ploy of asking an apparent Supreme Being (SB), "What would be the best question to ask you?" but only if you can also make sure that the SB answers that question.  How frustrating would it be if SB responded, "You should ask me, 'What is the meaning of life?'" and then laughed at you as you realized you'd used up your one and only question!  But I don't see how this question would help you determine if the SB was really God or whether your vision was real or a hallucination, dream, or matrix-like experience induced by a powerful but not supreme being.  Heck, you could ask me what question you should ask, and I could give you a good answer. (Ask what is the meaning of life!)</p><p>So, what would constitute proof that your vision of an SB was genuine?  Nothing, if your standards are set at Descartes' level of proof--you could be dreaming or in a matrix and never be able to tell, no matter what the SB said or did.  But you could use a more reasonable standard, like best explanation for the observed phenomena.  So, you could ask the SB to produce effects that would be best explained by your having asked such a being to produce them--e.g., "Tomorrow, allow me to fly unassisted for an hour and cure malaria and the flu."  When you fly and read headlines about the diseases being eradicated, that seems like good evidence that the SB you met is pretty supreme.  If SB is not willing to produce such evidence, you should taunt him/her/it:  "What's the matter, you're not supreme enough to do it? Come on, show me a sign!" <br /></p></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 12:52:21 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4463</link>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Justice, Religion - Thomas Pogge responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Can a nation have an official religion and be a democracy?
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Response from: Thomas Pogge<br />

<blockquote><p>I would consider Norway and the UK to be examples of this. Here the fundamental equality of citizens is not seriously undermined because the role of the state religion is largely ceremonial. In other countries, of course, citizens who do not share the state religion suffer severe discrimination which can be grave enough to defeat, by itself, the claim that the state in question is democratic. </p><p>It makes sense here to think of "being a democracy" as a matter of degree. Most of the states we call democracies fail fully to live up to democratic principles in one way or another. Having a state religion is a shortfall, but can be a relatively minor one if any resulting discrimination is not too severe.<br /></p></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 02:18:41 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4428</link>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Freedom, Religion, Science - Andrew Pessin responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Is religion the true enemy of freedom in a democratic society since it teaches us that we have to think a certain way or is science since it teaches us that nobody is truly free but a product of deterministic forces?
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Response from: Andrew Pessin<br />

<blockquote><p>Or another mode of reply:  First suppose that science DOES suggest determinism.  How would anything be different in our lives?  Wouldn't democratic processes work precisely the same way as they have been?  (After all, our behavior has been deterministic all along, so why would discovering/proving/merely believing that it is deterministic change anything?)  Or since 'freedom' seems to be the larger concern for you, again, what would be different?  All the cases where we've held people responsible for their behaviors, we still would hold them, wouldn't we? we'd still lock up bad people, teach our children to be good, etc.... So it isn't clear to me why scientific results would threaten anything, really.  Ditto for religion: if we think religions are in the business of generating true claims about the world, then, where they succeed, we should be happy to endorse their claims (assuming we want the truth).  Whichever dogmatic religions you're thinking of ARE dogmatic because they believe they have the truth which, I suppose, isn't necessarily a bad thing.  Of course, greater humility about knowledge is probably more appropriate -- but then very little stops most people from believing their religious beliefs along WITH the humility of recognizing they may be wrong -- so it isn't religion itself which 'suppresses freedom (of thought)', but dogmatic bossy people (some of whom are religious, but many of whom are not) ....</p><p>hope that's useful! ...</p><p> ap<br /></p></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 09:09:01 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4409</link>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Freedom, Knowledge, Religion - Oliver Leaman responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ “The eyes of the Lord are in every place, watching the evil and the good.” (Proverbs 15:3)<br><br>This implies to me that God is omnipresent, through time and space. With that premise, what argument can be made for free will? If he can see every action we make, he knew the actions that Adam and Eve would make before their creation.<br><br>Thanks,<br>James<br><br><br><br>
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Response from: Oliver Leaman<br />

<blockquote><p>Just because God knows what is going to happen does not mean it has to happen, in the sense that human beings have to do what they end up doing.  For example, I always have sugar in my coffee, if sugar is available,  but that does not mean that I am incapable of having coffee without sugar. I used to smoke after a cup of coffee, but no longer do so, and here again I did not have to give up smoking. God doubtless knew what I was going to do before I did it, but the decisions to use sugar, and discontinue smoking all belong to me.<br /></p><p> </p><p> </p></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:00:02 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4396</link>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Freedom, Religion, Science - Allen Stairs responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Is religion the true enemy of freedom in a democratic society since it teaches us that we have to think a certain way or is science since it teaches us that nobody is truly free but a product of deterministic forces?
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Response from: Allen Stairs<br />

<blockquote><p>How about neither?</p><p>Let's start with religion, about which only a few words. Some forms of religion are dogmatic and deeply invested in doubtful beliefs, but it's a mistake to think all religion is like that, contrary to the persistent insistence of some apologists for atheism. </p><p>And "science" writ large hasn't settled whether everything is a product of deterministic forces, let alone about what that would imply if it were true. On the first point: it's open to serious doubt whether quantum processes are deterministic. And it's simply not true that the macro-world would be sealed off from all quantum indeterminism. More important, it's simply not settled that determinism has the dire implications you suppose it has. Most philosophers, I'd guess, accept some version of compatibilism, according to which physical determinism and human freedom can coexist. A bit of searching around this website will find various discussions. <a href="http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/2663" target="_blank">Here's one</a> that might be helpful.</p>Of course, it might be that the compatibilists are wrong. It might also be (many have argued this) that <em>indeterminism</em> doesn't help either. (The fact that a bit of behavior isn't caused hardly shows that it's the sort of thing we want to count as an action for which someone could be held responsible.) The issues here are a blend of philosophical and scientific. But science isn't the enemy. It's our best way of trying to sort out the factual background to our philosophical puzzles. What we make of those facts isn't something we should blame "science" for.<br /><p><br /></p></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 09:09:01 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4409</link>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Art, Beauty, Religion - Charles Taliaferro responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ I am very interested in the idea of aesthetics as a spiritual phenomenom. Spirituality for me is not something limited to one religion. I recently bought the Routledge companion to Aesthetics and I also have a collection of academic essays in aesthetics that is supposed to be comprehensive. But I am very disappointed, the only essays or chapters that relate aesthetics with spirituality are those of 19th century German thinkers but no thinkers that are modern. I would really like to study this subject (probably entirely outside the university) and contribute an article in a journal but I don't know the names of those journals or if any exist. So what journals are there on that subject? (the intersection of spirituality and aesthetics)
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Response from: Charles Taliaferro<br />

<blockquote>There is quite a good literature on aesthetics that gets at spirituality.  I co-authored a recent book (out last year) with the American artist Jil Evans: The image in mind (Continuum) that gets at the aesthetic dimension of different ways of viewing the world (principally theism and naturalism) and we have a co-edited book Turning Images with Oxford that deals with aesthetics and religion / spirituality.  An older book which has an excellent collection of different thinkers is: Art, Creativity, and the Sacred edited by Diane Apostolos-Cappadona.  Gordon Graham has a good book: The Re-enchantment of the Word (OUP 2007), and Oxford has published an amazing series of five books on aesthetics and theology or the sacred by David Brown.  It is disappointing that the Routledge volume did not include more on spirituality, as many of those who contributed to aesthetics historically and quite recently have had spiritual concerns.  Plato's dialogue on beauty, the Symposium, is partly about the ascent of the soul to the higher beauties, and it deeply impacted subsequent religious thinkers and artists.  Three quite diverse thinkers from the 20th century who thought of aesthetics in spiritual terms include Kandinsky, Dewey, and Tolstoy.  Good wishes!</blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:28:05 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4373</link>
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		<title><![CDATA[ Question about Logic, Religion - Andrew Pessin responds]]></title>
		<description><![CDATA[ Is it logical to infer a higher power given how extraordinary human life is?
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Response from: Andrew Pessin<br />

<blockquote><p>If by 'logical' you mean 'a decent argument can be constructed of this form' then i would say the answer is yes -- but if you mean 'an absolutely convincing argument ...' then, well, you don't find too many of those anywhere in philosophy -- my favorite version of the kind of argument that Allen Stairs mentions is some version of the fine-tuning argument -- which observes how perfectly fine-tuned features of the universe seem to be, such that they could easily have been otherwise, and yet had they been otherwise then human life (conscious, rational, moral life) would not have been possible -- and goes from there to argue that it is reasonable to think this didn't occur by chance -- a good source on this topic would be any of Paul Davies' recent books ...</p><p>best, ap <br /></p></blockquote> ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:14:54 EST</pubDate>
		<link>http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/4326</link>
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